00:05 Do you guys prefer short, medium, long runs? Which ones work best for you for planning being a towbehind driver?

00:12 I prefer the one that pays the most money.

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00:37 Hello everybody and welcome to the Six-Figure Trucker brought to you by Norton Transport. And we come to you each and every week on Thursdays and we love you guys listening in and hearing other drivers and other people in the industry, in the field talk about driveaway trucking and everything that it involves. And as you guys know, this is a venue, a space where we elevate and celebrate the drivers for so much that they do, make our company what it is, in fact, make the industry what it is. And we’re very fortunate to have the drivers that we do at Norton Transport. And we certainly thank each and every one. And we have some special guests plural today that are joining us on the show. And it is a father and son team. Son Larry Altice and his father Tony Altice. Hello to both of you.

01:26 Hey, how y’all doing?

01:27 How are you guys doing? Tell us first off kind of set the scene each of you where you are and what the weather is like at this moment.

01:35 Okay, go ahead, Dad.

01:37 It’s cloudy where I’m at in Virginia right now. I’m home for a weekend.

01:41 I’m over in Ro and it’s about the same. We’re only about 20 minutes from each other, so weather’s fairly similar to each other.

01:48 Gotcha. Have you guys always lived close to each other or were the times when you may have you know gone off to school or whatever it may be that separated you in distance or have you always lived close to each other?

02:01 No. About the furthest has ever been it’s about 20 to 30 minutes and that’s pretty much it. I mean there for the longest time before I even got my CDL you know I was still living at home for a little while and then once I got it I was able to start making enough money to live on my own. I got you. Gotcha. Now, Tony, I’m going to let you take the lead on this one. We had talked about this before we got on the show there. How did you get into truck driving? What series of events led to you taking the wheel?

02:31 Well, I used to do construction work when I was younger. Me and my wife got married and I seen where construction wasn’t going to be a very lucrative job. So I turned to truck driving and I first started off I started driving for Kors Light Company in Salem, Virginia and just kind of moved on. It progressed from there. Went from being a local beer delivery guy to over the road guy to a grocery guy. And finally just decided I was tired of dealing with freight and wanted to check out this driveaway business and stepped into it and figured out how to do the toe car and see where I can make more money that way and that’s kind of where it led to.

03:19 Gotcha. Now, it was you were telling us earlier that it was 1991 when you started. Is that right?

03:25 Yes.

03:25 Now, what about you, Larry? Was it one of those cases where you’re I’m going to follow in my father’s footsteps kind of thing? Well, I mean, I was back and forth a little bit myself. I mean, when I first got out of high school, I was thinking about just going in for general studies on my in college. Kind of found out that I didn’t know what I wanted to do at the time. And so when I turned 21, dad kind of like told me, hey, you know, at least get your CDL. I mean, it’ll give you an opportunity to be able to have something to fall back on if something doesn’t work out for you. And I was like, “Okay, well, I mean, it’d be nice to at least have something for, you know, this case, you know, anything might happen.” And me and him actually went out to Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and started you know, doing some training with another driving company. And that kind of got us over the road for a little while until we got back to where we could do local stuff. We did local stuff there for a little while and I actually came back off from driving and I went back into a retail position and everything and then co 19 hit and the job pretty much got to the point to where I just couldn’t stand it anymore.

04:41 It was just so I guess boring would be the right word to say. But, that was when dad told me that, “Hey, you know I’ve been doing this driveaway stuff for about 3 years now.” And, why don’t you give it a shot? You know, we can get you set up and maybe get something lined up to where you can come out for a week with me and see if you like it. And, sure enough, it was actually with Norton here. And, it was great. I liked it for about a week or that first week and then after that, it’s pretty much, all right, I’m full throttle with this. Oh, I like that. Full throttle. That’s a nice way to put it. Now, I was looking back and I think Tony, you started in September of 19 and about a little over a year later, Larry, you jumped on board.

05:31 Yeah, I think it was sometime in October, I think, of 2020, I was right after, you know, stuff started shutting down during the pandemic and everything—

05:40 Right? What’s it been like for you guys, Tony? You take the lead on that. What’s it been like? Let’s see. Let me do some quick math here. Tony you’ve been with us for over four years. What’s it been like?

05:50 Well, it’s kind of up and down. I’ve seen the company grow. I think when I come on, it seemed like they had maybe like a 100 drivers. I could be wrong, but I know it seemed like the numbers were low and as far as how many drivers they had and now they got 14,500. At least that’s what I’ve been told. It’s kind of slowed the board down a little bit and making it a little bit tougher to make the money we were making. But I like this driveaway stuff because like again like I say, you don’t deal with freight and I decide when I want to go home and when I want to be at work and don’t have to stand in line with somebody for vacation. You know what I mean?

06:33 That’s nice. That’s very nice. What about you, Larry? What’s your perspective on it being in the seat for 3 years and 4 months?

06:42 I mean I’ve really enjoyed it actually. I mean it’s kind of like a bad thing and I’ve had the opportunity to where I’m able to experience a little bit more. It’s like, you know, as you mentioned, not having to put in the time off request with somebody and say, “Hey, you know, I’d like to take this certain week off because I want to go out and see a little music festival or something. Instead, now I just, hey, I’m just not going to work that week.” And I’ve really enjoyed that. And then also, it’s, you know, seeing a lot more, too. I mean, we for a while there were going down to Georgia quite a little bit. And you know, if we had the opportunity would stop off and see like a baseball game while we were down there in Atlanta and that’s just really been great. I mean, just the fact that work can take us to do something that we want to do and it’s like, you know, an added benefit. Hey, I’m getting paid to go slide through Atlanta or slide through St. Louis and see a ball game while I’m out there.

07:43 Now, did you see a ball game in each city?

07:46 Yeah, we’ve seen them in those two so far. I think that’s been about it right now. You got to make the time for it, too. Sometimes it’s like, oh, we’re pushing to get to the drop, so we just need to hurry up and get on in there.

07:58 Right. Right. Now, each of you, I mean, you guys kind of told us there at the beginning that you’re tow behind drivers, and I guess that gives you a lot of freedom, saves you a lot of money.

08:09 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it really does. I mean if you go and look at how much it costs to get a tow car, I mean, a rental car to get from place to place or even a Uber. And there’s for some instances where you can’t even get an Uber if you go into a rural area where there’s not a lot around, you can be stuck there until somehow you figure out a way to get out of that area. And with the tow car, you don’t get into that position.

08:37 What kind of cars do you guys have for your toe behinds? We got a 2014 Jeep Wrangler and a 2004 slaughtering Jeep.

08:45 Gotcha.

08:46 Yeah.

08:46 Now, describe is the connecting apparatus the same for yours, Larry, and for yours, Tony.

08:53 We use a company out of Missouri that he sells us equipment and everything. And yeah, I mean, it’s pretty much the same setup for each one of us. And I mean, we try to make it as simple as we can with the stuff, too. I mean, certain hookups, they can be a little bit difficult. You might have to flip something around. You might have to come out a little bit further than what you’re used to doing on, you know, pieces of equipment, but for the most part, we’re pretty much the same on our equipment.

09:24 And you guys like to ride together. And I guess if you’re riding together, you only need one car.

09:29 Yeah, pretty much. We actually have a friend that rides with us, too, that actually come on about three months ago. He’s already seen the benefits of having a toe call around compared to a rental car. He actually want to go out if he’s not able to go out with us because he knows he can’t really afford to use a rental car cuz he can’t make any money. So, yeah, we’re pretty much glad together for the most part. The two cars if one needs to have something done in the shop, we have the backup to, you know, go out and use it as well.

10:04 That’s smart. Smart. That’s ideal. Now, I talked with your team lead, Michael, and from looking at the load board, you guys like to run a lot. And do you guys prefer short, medium, long runs? Which ones work best for you for planning being a toebehind driver? It really just how it works out. Go ahead. Go ahead, Dad.

10:25 I prefer the one who pays the most money.

10:29 Oh, what about you, Larry? You were saying that whichever works best.

10:34 Yeah, it kind of just like depends on how it works. I mean, you know, for a while Volvo was keeping us fairly busy running back and forth between Dublin, Virginia to Knoxville, Tennessee. And that Dublin area is only 45 minutes from where we live at. So, you know, we could turn to Knoxville in like about 3 and 1 half 4 hours and then come right back home and that’s the way we were running quite a little bit. But, you know, sometimes we will go out for a week or you know, couple days or something like that just because you know, Knoxville might not have anything or do what we got to do, you know, just again like how you said, pays whatever pays the most money and can make us enough to be able to get by for the next week and stuff. I guess that you know it’s obviously possible on the shorties you guys can do more than one truck in a day.

11:23 Yeah. Yeah. We sometimes we try to turn two in a day. If we can keep it around two to 300 m well about 200 miles or less usually works out pretty good. We can usually turn two doubles the knots bills and that makes for a long day but everything pretty much on a legit so we can you know knock out some money there. There’s a case where we had some over in Salem, Virginia. It’s a M plant. It’s 30 minutes from your house going down to Thomasville, North Carolina, which is like 140 mile trip. And we usually can turn two of those in a day and you’re knocking down $500, $600 in one day.

12:04 That’s not bad. That’s not bad at all. Now, I know for one account that you were able to take you guys have been taking quite a few trucks out of Mount Pleasant, Tennessee to Knoxville and didn’t know, did you guys also take some down to Chattanooga down to Ringgold?

12:21 I don’t think we— Yeah. Yeah, I think they did take a couple down.

12:25 Yeah. Then the Mount Pleasville, those were going on there for a little while. We had I think we moved about six or seven of those. I think—

12:34 There will be more. I’ve heard through the grapevine there will be more and we I just want to say you know as a company and as individual members of that company we certainly appreciate the fact that you guys have the setup and the willpower to do that even if you can turn two in a day of course within the framework of the law but we certainly appreciate the what you guys do and the efficiency that you bring to us and I guess from your standpoint it’s a two-way street it’s efficient for you too—

13:00 Yeah efficiency is always a key to a lot of event you don’t efficiency. Really, you can’t turn two of them in a day.

13:07 When you’re doing two like that, you don’t have room for any kind of mistakes or any holdups. You know what I mean?

13:15 Gotcha. Now, you know, we all know in the driveaway industry and moving trucks in general, breakdowns are going to happen. But talk about how having that car behind you just really gives you a parachute, so to speak. Yeah, I mean it’s just like for example, I mean if we happen to have something that does happen, I mean we were I think somewhere down south and I remember we I had a tire start going flat on me and it was right when we pulled out from the truck stop to get some fuel and luckily enough, you know, right across the street there was a dealership and that dealership was able to help us out with getting the tire pumped back up and I don’t think it had any type of hole in it. I think it was just a little low. That’s all it was.

14:06 Mhm.

14:06 And you know, if we were to have to be broke down there because they needed to replace the tire or something else along the lines was going on.

14:16 I mean, if we needed to, hey, you know, Michael could have been like, “All right, well, we’ll just leave that truck there and y’all can move on to your next one.” Or if we wanted to, we could just, you know, hop in the Jeep and go to a hotel or, you know, go do something for a few hours to be able to kill some time while they get the stuff done on repairing what might have been wrong with the vehicle.

14:37 What about you, Tony? Have you had similar experience either with or without Larry?

14:41 Yeah. Earlier on before he had come on, I had another partner and we were going across mountains in North Carolina, the Chucky Mountains there. My partner’s truck, the antifreeze had dropped in it and we had to pull off the side of the interstate. So once we did that, I said, “Look, I’ll unhook the call and go get us some antifreeze so we don’t have to wait on breakdown to come get us.”

15:07 Mhm.

15:08 And you know that in itself when you broke down the side road, you can be 3 4 hours if not more than that.

15:15 Mhm. And with me being able to go get the antifreeze and come back, put the antifreeze in, we lost 30 minutes, you know. And again, like I say, when you’re trying to run and get to from point A to point B at a certain time, you don’t have that luxury of just sitting around waiting on breakdown to come get you or whatever. But again, you know, like you said, if we had to stay somewhere, we can get in a jeep and you know, hop in there and go on to the hotel or whatever we need to for the time being. And at least then we’ve got a way to get around because you can’t move around in those big trucks to like a restaurant or something like that to eat or whatever you want to do or go to a ball game for that thing, you’re not able to do it.

16:02 Well, take us back to the ball game. Let’s start in St. Louis. How long ago was it and what do you remember about that moment to be father and son together watching a ball game?

16:12 Yeah, it was I think it was back in 2021, wasn’t it? Because actually the year that the Braves won the World Series and we went out I think we were trying to make it to Kansas City with a couple trucks and you know just drive through St. Louis at that time. I think our hours were just about up and we were going to stay there in St. Louis, it just so happened that hey, you know, we checked the scheduling and the Braves were playing the Cardinals at the time and I mean it great. I mean, you know, it’s not like, you know, we’re trying to plan things out or anything, but hey, if we’re riding through that city and they happen to be there, why not, you know, try to knock out another ballpark and, you know, maybe move on to the next one from there. I mean, it was fun, you know, getting to be able to do that together and, you know, without it being something that we really were thinking was going to happen. It just, like I said, the spontaneity that we can get in the line of work because you’re in that particular city at that time really is nice when it comes to this work.

17:16 Who’s the bigger baseball fan?

17:18 Oh, well, I’ve kind of been pulling from a brave since 1980. I don’t know if that counts. Yeah, I mean since I was born that that’s I was raised on the Braves. So—

17:30 That’s— Well, Tony, you’ve been through the thick and the thin if you were a Braves fan back in 1980.

17:34 Yeah. Yeah. It’s been some years—

17:38 Right? Right. Now, what other I mean we know you guys love baseball. What other kind of things do you guys like to do when you’re not out there making good money on the road?

17:48 I like to fish and mess around on the lake and stuff like that. We’ve got a lake close by here and do a little bit of hunting, you know, a lot in the winter time. Winter gets here, I take about a week or so off, go deer hunting, put some meat up for the winter, you know, stuff like that. That and I like to do some gardening, too. So, I make my time for my gardening and my hunting and my fishing. That’s about it.

18:14 Well, Mr. Altis, you said you take a week off in the winter to go hunting. Have you already done it this winter or is it still to come?

18:22 Yeah. Yeah. No, we usually around November about the first week of November, we usually go hunting around here.

18:31 I usually take a week or so off.

18:33 Was it a good trip?

18:34 Oh yeah. I don’t have to go anywhere. I’ve got 17 acres that I hunt on my land and I just stay right here and usually just hunt what I can find.

18:44 Okay. What about you, Larry? What kind of things you like to do? Well, like I said, ever since I started doing driveaway, it’s really freed up a lot more of my time to where I can do certain things like I like to go to music festivals a lot. I mean one of the first couple years I went or I’ve been doing driveaway my cousin and I, we’ve gone to two or three different ones anywhere between country to folk to just like an allaround all types of music festival. And it’s really made it to where, like I said, if I wanted to take four or five days off to go do that, it’s it frees my time up to go do it. And two, you know, heck, when I’m in route to somewhere, I might be able to say, “Hey, you know, there’s a concert going on there that I wouldn’t mind seeing.” I actually was just up in Chicago on Christmas Eve.

19:41 Well, the 23rd, and took a truck up in that area and was able to stop off there for the night and catch a show that I’ve been wanting to see you know, while I was in Chicago at the time and everything. So, it worked out real good for me. But yeah, spending time with family and friends a lot, too. I mean, like I said, whenever we can get some time off, just be able to see them and hang out and just have a fun time with them. That’s kind of like what I’ve like to do.

20:08 And how rewarding is it to be able to have that kind of flexibility and work it into your work schedule of driving trucks?

20:16 I mean, it’s what one thing that’s really keeping me in doing this line of work. I mean, me and dad have both have said the same thing. You know, I won’t go back to working for somebody because next thing you know, I have to be requesting time off. I have to be hoping that, you know, John up above me that’s been here for two more years with me is going to get that time off that I want. And that’s what I really like about this line of work. I mean, I don’t have to worry about that. I can just take off when I want to take off. And you know if just so happens that hey I’m in that particular area there’s something that pops up I can also grab it like I said make money while I’m doing stuff that I enjoy to do.

20:57 And Tony what about you? What’s life been like as an independent contractor since you started doing that back in the in 2019. Well, kind of like what he said, you know I’m able to have the flexibility to take when I want to take them off and go do things. And again, you over the years dealing with freight and everything else. I mean, I went from delivering beer to delivering groceries, delivering me over the years, you know, and I look at it now and I think myself, you know, I kind of fell into the trap of I’ve got to work for somebody to make money to pay my bills. Well, you when you get into that, you fall into the fact that your boss is going to tell you, “Hey, you can’t take this week off. I need you here. I need you to make me that money and I’ll give you a little piece of the pie but not much of it so that you’ll have to keep coming to work and with this you know I’ve got that flexibility to say no I don’t want to come in today and again like my son said I’m not going to work for anybody else again if I ever lead this I’ll probably retire not I’m not looking to work for somebody to always you— They constantly build their companies up while I’m sitting here struggling to make my bills get paid.”

22:24 Gotcha.

22:24 So, it kind of, you know, that flexibility is a lot to do with it.

22:29 Each of you, how much longer do you see yourselves doing this?

22:32 For me, I’m hoping about five years.

22:34 Is that going to be retirement age for you?

22:36 Yeah. I mean, I’m 55 now, but retirement age is what you make. Again, like I say, that’s that trap you call. Save your money, put it back. You retire when you want to. If you make enough money out here doing this stuff, you cut it off, you save it up, and you don’t fall into the traps. You there’s all kinds of traps out there to keep you doing this work that you’re doing. If you do it right and do the you right things, you can get out of it sooner than you expect.

23:07 What about you, Larry?

23:09 I mean, I’m only 29, so I’ll probably keep doing this for a little while. I mean, I’ve seen people on you know, groups on Facebook that have said they’ve been doing this for 30 years and they still enjoy it like it was their first year. So, you know, if it’s that nice, I’m going to try to keep doing it as long as I can. Like I said, just got to make sure able to keep myself busy enough to do it.

23:31 Right. Right. Well, let me ask you this question. Has it brought the two of you closer together as father and son being out the on the road running together, that kind of thing? And I’m assuming that it has and how has it?

23:44 Go ahead.

23:45 All right. Well, I’ll put it like this. We’ve always been pretty close. At one point in time, I do have a construction company, so I was able to work for myself. And basically, it gave me time to spend with him you with scouts and then with baseball. You know, like I say, we’re baseball fans and he played baseball. So I coach his team and obviously he’s scout master and you know stuff like that when he’s growing up and we still kind of stay close together and you know help each other out as much as possible. So it’s I guess in a way we would pretty much feel as close as we were being I don’t see where being much of a difference now than when he was growing up I think.

24:32 Gotcha. With the asset with the assessment he has about two whatever you want right now. So—

24:38 Now you guys back on the road next week?

24:41 Yeah.

24:42 Yep. Right up to Pennsylvania.

24:44 Do you have more than one truck a piece or what’s the load plan there? We’ll take one to from Salem, Virginia up to Shoemaker via PA. And—

24:59 Yeah, then from Shoemaker, we’re going to ride over I’m going to ride over to Macungie, which is like 25 minutes again. There’s the rental car. Helped out on that.

25:08 Mhm.

25:09 And pick up another one in Macungie to take from Lan, Maryland, and he’s going to from Salem to Morgantown, PA. And then from Morgantown, PA is there. Another one we pick up right there to come down to where is it? Frederick, Maryland here.

25:24 No. Capitol Heights.

25:27 Capital Heights, Maryland. Yeah. And what we’ll do once we drop, we’ll get in the Jeep and I’ll come meet him or he’ll come meet you, whoever. Probably me to get him in the Jeep.

25:38 Gotcha. Not asking how much you guys make, but what kind of lifestyle has it afforded you? Three, four years into driveaway.

25:46 Well, like I mentioned earlier, I mean, it’s done great things for me. I was able to actually get out and start living on my own. When I first started that I did have a roommate but I mean he eventually did move out and it’s made it to where you know even then even though you know me and him was splitting our monthly rent and everything you know it didn’t affect me because I was like well at the moment it was just you know I only had half the bill now I have the whole bill and it’s not like it was hurting me when I had to take on that full bill every month the full rent every month. So, I mean, it’s just it’s made life a lot easier. Just because, you know, I’m able to definitely afford to be able to live on my own now.

26:33 What about for you, Tony?

26:35 Well, it’s kind of affordable for my wife to be able to retire and give you let her live more comfortable without having to go in to work every day. So, it’s kind of made it where it’s easier on her for the most part. And obviously you guys are on the same dispatch team and we almost always ask this question out here on the Six-Figure Trucker brought to you by Norton Transport. What’s the relationship like with the team and how important is it to have that you know great line of communication?

27:10 I mean I’d say that you know Michael’s helped us out quite a little bit. I mean, especially lately with, you know, certain things coming up to where, you know something might be coming down the pipeline that, you know, like Dublin and Knoxville showing up and, you know, because we formed such a good relationship with them, he knows that, hey, as long as they’re in the area, they’ll want to do one of those. So, he’ll try to get, you know, assigned to it and everything. That way, if it’s Tuesday and he tells us about it on Wednesday, we’re able to run it.

27:43 Mhm. And what about for you, Tony?

27:45 Well, again, like I said, you make it with Michael, he understands that we like to try to while we’re out here create a whole week of work. I don’t like to, you know, get four hours away from your house or 5 hours away from your house and head home because there’s nothing else to do or deadhead six hours to another spot. He kind of sees that, look, I need to book these guys four or five trips. And sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. We’ve had different times where runs get dropped because of quality control at the area that we’re picking up, you know, the company that we’re picking up from has quality control issues. But for the most part, I mean, him understanding that, hey, we want to run all week, but we’d like to have trips set up.

28:35 Gotcha. Makes it a little bit easier.

28:37 What would your advice be to someone who is thinking about going into driveaway but has questions and is still kind of, you know, weighing the pros and the cons of it? What would your advice be, Tony, since you’ve been doing it longer? What would your advice be to somebody who’s considering?

28:54 Well, do your research on it. Understand that when you come into this, there’s a lot of ups and downs, endings and flows, whatever you want to call it. And understand that when you come into this, you’re a contractor and you’re responsible for your well-being and everything that goes on out here. And I understand that, you know, once you get out here, whatever money you’re making, it’s going to have to go back to what you’re doing. Sometimes you got to spend money to make money. You know, I’m trying to explain to the friend of ours rides with us every now and then. Look, get you a take car and he’s got a buddy that come into it too and he’s been fighting this rental car stuff and he can’t make any money in. If I give you anything at all, get a toe call because that if you’re going to run singles, get a toe call because that’s going to be how you save your money.

29:57 What about you, Larry? I mean, what’s your perspective on the same question there as far as what your counsel would be to a you know, a prospective or pro prospective person looking at coming in to driveaway?

30:11 Well, I mean, I will say I mean, you know, with dad doing this for a couple years, it did make it a lot easier. I mean, I would say maybe see if you’ve got anybody that has been doing this stuff. I mean, when I first got in, it really wasn’t that big. Speaking like dad said that the company especially with Norton has grown quite a lot since the past couple of years and you know now it’s more diverse where you might see somebody that’s doing it so ask around see what they have to say I mean what I would definitely say is you know training is definitely important to have that like without dad when I got into it I probably wouldn’t have known you know hey this is how the NC go app works and you know this is how we do our pickups this is how we do drops and how to use motive and stuff like that because I was so used to running everything the way a freight company was. And it was definitely different. And like I said, I would just try to take it slow and really just maybe even like write a few things down here and there because you know, you’re going to forget something.

31:17 And if there’s nobody there with you all the time, like how me and him were when I first started doing this, then it’s tough at first. And our buddy that he keeps talking about that runs with us here and there he’s been doing this for two to three months and he still has questions. So I mean it’s definitely something that you need to take your time learning and understanding everything very well.

31:46 Gotcha. Gotcha. Now you had mentioned Larry about the apps. What’s your favorite app that we offer out there as far as putting the technology in your hands as the driver? I mean that that ent go is pretty great. I mean it’s set up to pretty flexible to where you know if you wanted to filter out, hey I only want to do like a 200 mile run, 300 mile run, I could do that or you know and there’s a few things here and there of course it’s upgrades that I would say it could definitely improve on. I mean that helps and then also you know you just use your basic features of your phone too. I mean the fact that I can be 200, 300 miles away from my house and be able to snap pictures of all the documents that I need to, you know, get my paperwork turned in and then just email it right to our dispatcher. And it’s different from what it was. Dad’s always told me that, you know, back in the day, you used to have to stop by a truck stop, fill out a trip pack, and do all this other stuff, fax it in, and next thing you know, it take you two or three days for you finally get your money paid out.

32:56 And the fact that everything’s advanced now to where you can get paid within the next hour is great.

33:05 Tony, how does that resonate with you to get paid within the next hour?

33:09 Well, like I said early on, I’m all about getting paid. So—

33:15 Sooner I get paid, the better I’ll feel, you know.

33:18 I got you.

33:19 Well, that was all I had for you guys today, but I certainly want to leave it open to you. Anything about driveaway that you guys want to share with us?

33:29 I mean, you know, like I play again, just get out here and do this and enjoy yourself while you’re out here because, like I say, you got that freedom to do this. So if you if you’re willing to put the time in and you know if you want to get away from pray and get away from standing in line for vacation, this is the best place to get started on. And I would just say that you know it’s a great line of work to you definitely earn a little bit more you know financial freedom and everything but also as dad mentioned before don’t forget there’s ups and downs. I mean we’ve lost run in the middle of the week before and it’s not like it’s something that, okay, the company’s just going to take care of me. I’m still going to be paid for my week. I’m still going to get my out. No, you don’t get that. You need to remember that this can be a $2 or $3,000 week or it can be a $500 week. It just depends on what might happen.

34:31 So, always be prepared for what could happen while you’re out over the road here.

34:36 Gotcha. Larry and Tony Altice, thank you so much for joining us here on the Six-Figure Trucker brought to you by Norton Transport. We are very pleased to have you guys running for us and but thank you so much for joining us on the program.

34:50 Thank you.

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